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Old 02-12-2013, 11:08 AM
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I can already tell people are not gonna **** with his album. It's gonna be too intelligent/ too real for the sheep. They're just not gonna understand/comprehend it
u probably right,and people are gonna hate on this comment BUT ...

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Old 02-12-2013, 11:10 AM
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My first listen thoughts:

1. Can I Holla At Ya? - Beat is sleepy. 3/5
2. Crunch Time - This beat is better. I feel the vibe on this a bit better. Dude almost sounds like a KRIT influence. The lyrics are kinda meh but the vibe of the song makes it worth it. 4/5
3. Rise Above - I can bear the beat. Lyrics are better on this one. I guess he was trying to send a message. 3.5/5
4. Tears for ODB - Beat is weak. Flow is off and all over the place. Hes emulating too much of this "gangsta struggle" life because he thinks it sounds good. Who is the real Cole? Dude sounds like he loves being the underdog. You went to college and got a degree. Talk about that? I mean even Drake and your peers talk about THEIR LIVES. He still swears he ain't made it yet. 2.5/5.
5. Stay - Same old bullshit because he thinks hes going to jail. Oh ok. I guess he wants to tell stories that he thinks "back packers" want to hear because thats "real rap." Dude didn't even do the beat justice. Stop stealing from KRIT. 3/5.

Why does he not get better production? I can't listen to this **** more than once.

Dude just doesn't have IT.

He can "rap"...but its just kinda average.

Look at the end of the day, Cole is like one of those rappers who sounds good on blogs because they just make "just ok" music on 2DopeBoyz or something. They'll have a small cult following, but hes nothing special.

OH...and anyone that says cole don't talk about women is a liar. Thats basically 80% of his style. He's not some pro-revolutionary and hes NOT THAT GOOD at doing what he does.

Other people can do what he does and be him...better than he can be. Its just kinda true.



STOP PRODUCING YOUR **** COLE.


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Cole's storytelling on tracks like Killers/Tears for ODB is why he above most these new niggaz...comes across as real unlike Drake when he be talking that G **** but u know he flexing..
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Because he didn't do it justice.

I know the beat.

He ain't **** with the beat.



How you manage to turn that into a "positive" is BEYOND me.

Mind you, his "single" is dropping next week.

I hope hes not trying to get it played anywhere.
It's on black and white and you said that it was sleepy cause you thought he produced it. Embarrassing.

And why so you care about his singles, if the beat bangs and if he raps about other people? You're a fucking Nas stan. It's like Knicks Stans worrying about if ****** are winning titles.


Cats ain't got to like him by any means but the reasoning for why must be consistent across the board. And in your case it's all over the place. I can't say that I don't Raekwon cause he talks about dope and money and them say Jay is my favorite rapper.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:11 AM
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:12 AM
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I can already tell people are not gonna **** with his album. It's gonna be too intelligent/ too real for the sheep. They're just not gonna understand/comprehend it
Are you seriously suggesting that since I don't **** with this unimpressive **** that that I don't understand what hes saying?

As if Cole fans have higher IQs and ****.

HE AINT SAYING ****!

Cole ain't said one intelligent or inciteful thing on this EP.

For a college grad, hes not even that nice with the pen either.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:13 AM
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Man the way Kendrick bodied Cole on that track is just crazy...I hope Cole can keep up with him on their collaboration...
HOLY **** @ that Kendrick verse.

First time hearing that song
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:13 AM
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u probably right,and people are gonna hate on this comment BUT ...

cole >>> kendrick
Been saying this forever. K. Dot is better techincally I guess, but Cole hits me in a way I can't even describe. Only him and Pac do that.

It's like Cole is giving us life lessons in his music but we just not listening
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It's on black and white and you said that it was sleepy cause you thought he produced it. Embarrassing.

And why so you care about his singles, if the beat bangs and if he raps about other people? You're a fucking Nas stan. It's like Knicks Stans worrying about if ****** are winning titles.
I'm actually not a Nas stan. The fact you use the word "stan" in a sentence is itself indicative of your grasp on reality.

I didn't think he produced it. Its the fact that he didn't do it justice. Its sleepy. It doesn't matter who produced or when. Its unimpressive, especially considering what Cole did on it. Who cares?
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:16 AM
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Cole's storytelling on tracks like Killers/Tears for ODB is why he above most these new niggaz...comes across as real unlike Drake when he be talking that G **** but u know he flexing..
Storytelling? LOLOLOLOL

You mean rapping about other ****** lives? You might as well call him Rick Ross...see the double standard there?

If its not in 3rd person then Cole ain't rapping about it.

All this ***** raps about is "She said she didn't grow up without a daddy...hold on lil mama...we gonna get this abortion...I ain't gon' leave you. I grew up and ain't have ****! Went to college. Got brain from a student. etc"

tell me if I missed something.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:18 AM
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Been saying this forever. K. Dot is better techincally I guess, but Cole hits me in a way I can't even describe. Only him and Pac do that.

It's like Cole is giving us life lessons in his music but we just not listening
You ****** need father figures or to pay attention in class.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:18 AM
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It's on black and white and you said that it was sleepy cause you thought he produced it. Embarrassing.

And why so you care about his singles, if the beat bangs and if he raps about other people? You're a fucking Nas stan. It's like Knicks Stans worrying about if ****** are winning titles.


Cats ain't got to like him by any means but the reasoning for why must be consistent across the board. And in your case it's all over the place. I can't say that I don't Raekwon cause he talks about dope and money and them say Jay is my favorite rapper.
Here this ***** go accusing everybody who dont agree wit him of being "Nas Stans"...lol...I disagree with him tho...this is a quality EP minus Stay 09..
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:20 AM
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HOLY **** @ that Kendrick verse.

First time hearing that song
I been waiting for that damn song for bout a year and a half..lol
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I been waiting for that damn song for bout a year and a half..lol
I see why.
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brehs this ep is pure fire

that tears for odb is just vulgar *jay-z's voice*

j.cole season has begun
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:35 AM
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Here this ***** go accusing everybody who dont agree wit him of being "Nas Stans"...lol...I disagree with him tho...this is a quality EP minus Stay 09..
Nothing about agreeing with me, as you can see in my post.
It's about keeping your criticism consistent, you can't worry about hit singles if your favorite artist ain't charted a big singles in over a decade.

You can't claim that a dukes beats are boring (even the classic ones that are hailed as classic instrumentals in the hiphop books) when your favorite artist main and probably only criticism is having boring beats and sometimes being a boring MC. And you can't worry about talking about other people as your community, when your favorite artist makes whole albums about his community.

You've got to agree with your own criticism, not my opinions by any means.
And in this case I mistook the poster for someone else, or I gambled since 80% of Coles haters are Nas stans and I gambled on the odds that out of 10 times I'll get it right 8.
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