No thread on Kobe scoring 4 POINTS shooting 12% with 8 turnovers? :pachaha:

[BrothaZay]

Originally Posted by Newzz

Kobe cant win without Shaq or Gasol?



How many rings LeBron won without Wade? How many rings Jordan win without Pippen?



Checkmate.

Right...Jordan never won **** without pippen. Lebron is 1-2 in the finals and only won with Wade and bosh. ****** really gotta bring up 2 different players to discredit Kobe

[Kobes Middle Finger]

Originally Posted by god shamgod

I didn't know that,that's a joke

The only joke here, is that you didn't know it, or why or how.

[god shamgod]

Originally Posted by GreatestLaker

So the mvp should go to the team with the bigger turn around?

No it went to the player who was the main reason why

Then the suns lost their best player in amare and still had a top 3-4 record in the league.There's no way possible you can make a case for kobe winning the mvp in 06 or 07 without sounding like a groupie

[mitter]

Originally Posted by god shamgod

No it went to the player who was the main reason why

Then the suns lost their best player in amare and still had a top 3-4 record in the league.There's no way possible you can make a case for kobe winning the mvp in 06 or 07 without sounding like a groupie

Kobe carried teams with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown in the starting lineups to the playoffs. Luke Walton was like the third best player on those teams.

He also put up historic numbers

[Kobes Middle Finger]

Originally Posted by god shamgod

No it went to the player who was the main reason why

Then the suns lost their best player in amare and still had a top 3-4 record in the league.There's no way possible you can make a case for kobe winning the mvp in 06 or 07 without sounding like a groupie

The Lakers weren't even predicted to make the playoffs in 06 or 07. Most picked them to finish 11th or 12th, because of the terrible roster he had. Both years, they made 7th seed, far and away exceeding expectations. But because the Suns won more games, Nash deserved it more?
Since when did it become a team achievement?

[god shamgod]

"I'm tired of being a sidekick"-Kobe.I have no sympathy for him having to play with smush parker

You don't get mvp for leading a team to a 42-40 and 45-37 record that's not how it works.Maybe back in the 70's not these days

[Newzz]

Originally Posted by Illuminatos

Aight, you have a point but it doesn't even matter. LeBron isn't about the high scoring games like Kobe is.

Still great players but both impact the games in their own way.

Best post in this thread........besides mine about how many rings LeBron got without Wade/how many Jordan got without Pippen

[Illuminatos]

Originally Posted by Newzz

Kobe cant win without Shaq or Gasol?



How many rings LeBron won without Wade? How many rings Jordan win without Pippen?



Checkmate.

Nobody said that. I said Kobe never won any playoff series without Shaq and Gasol. LeBron's taken a team filled with scrubs to the Finals, however.

[Newzz]

Originally Posted by upthere

Good points. But thats only half the game. Brons defense>>> Kobes.

Kobe may have extreme confidence in taking shots from anywhere, but he is nowhere near as versatile as bron on defense.

Being able to switch onto and effectively guard 80 percent of the league for stretches at a time>>>>> kobes defense of guards and some forwards.


Have to let the season play out to see if bron has a better season than 06 kobe.

But it depends on what you value..

absurd amounts of scoring with low percentages, wide array of moves and shots
OR
consistent and efficient scoring, sharing the ball, better defense

LeBron does NOT play better defense then Kobe played in his prime.....fuckouttahere

[Newzz]

Originally Posted by Illuminatos

Nobody said that.

It was said.

What was said was Kobe aint win without Shaq and Gasol.


I responded back with: LeBron aint won **** without Wade and Jordan aint won **** without Pippen either

[Illuminatos]

Originally Posted by Newzz

LeBron does NOT play better defense then Kobe played in his prime.....fuckouttahere

Originally Posted by Newzz

It was said.

What was said was Kobe aint win without Shaq and Gasol.


I responded back with: LeBron aint won **** without Wade and Jordan aint won **** without Pippen either

No thread on Kobe scoring 4 POINTS shooting 12% with 8 turnovers? :pachaha:

I didn't say that.

[Newzz]

Originally Posted by VictorVonDoom

Pippen was better than Shaq in 94? He wasn't better than Ewing then either.

Even if you stretch and make the case that he was #5 for one year (which I disagree with) this matter of fact statement of "Pippen was a top 5 player" is a pretty absurd statement. He was always considered a top 10 player, not top 5.

Scottie Pippen wasn't a top 5 player in 94 at LEAST breh?

Also, he finished #3 in the MVP race in 94 and #5 in 96

[VictorVonDoom]

Originally Posted by Newzz

Scottie Pippen wasn't a top 5 player in 94 at LEAST breh?

Also, he finished #3 in the MVP race in 94 and #5 in 96

That's the year you could make the best argument for him, but I'd still go with Robinson, Malone, Shaq, Ewing, Olajuwon over him then.

[Newzz]

Originally Posted by VictorVonDoom

That's the year you could make the best argument for him, but I'd still go with Robinson, Malone, Shaq, Ewing, Olajuwon over him then.

Patrick Ewing wasnt better than Scottie Pippen in 1994 though.

The Admiral, Shaq, The Mailman, and The Dream were all better, but not Ewing.

[Weedizmedicine]

i would have taken barkley over pippen in 94 too. dude was still a beast at that point.