Interesting read, link below. I put some highlights below for those who are allergic to reading entire articles


Native Americans speak on sports imagery - Sports Fans, Teams, Stadiums, Page 2 - Fandom Blog - ESPN Playbook - ESPN

• From John Orendorff, a U.S. Army colonel and Native American: "I often feel that the underlying point of these 'honors' is that my Indian heritage is owned by others. The message I'm constantly getting is: 'We own you. We will define how we honor you. Don't tell us whether you like it or not, because we own you. When we hunt down Osama bin Laden, we can refer to him as Geronimo -- which happens to be my son's name -- because we own you. You don't control how you're perceived. We control that. Because we own you.'"

"It's just like the way Indians have always been depicted in the movies -- stupid and violent, although oddly noble in their savagery," said Kevin Gover, the museum's director and a Pawnee Indian. "Why is it that Native peoples aren't chosen to represent qualities like intelligence, piety, generosity, and love of family?"

• From an audience member who identified himself as Native American: "If [team owner] Dan Snyder truly thinks the word 'Redskins' is honorific, I challenge him to attend the next meeting of the National Congress of American Indians and try using that word to people's faces."

• From Duthu, the Dartmouth professor: "It's part of viewing Indians as a dead culture, as a plaything that's essentially become part of the public domain. Because if something is dead, you can use it however you want."

For what it's worth, I am a skinz fan and I am all for a name change.

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Update 5/1/13

Proposed name change to the Redtails to honor the Tuskegee Airmen

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/92...ngton-redskins

The name Indian doesn't belong to them. It belongs to another group of people from Asia.

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yeah, that was my first though. You not "Indian" breh. Your family are not from India, lol.

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But if they are referring to Native Americans as Indians I would imagine that would still be offensive for Native Americans and Indians

these ****** still getting called Indians. They stay losing


Nas must be Indian also

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Thank you. This is such a pet peeve of mine.

I honestly dont see anything wrong with the B'Hawks logo but then again i am a Chicagoan so i am biased.

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Did the name "******" or even "negro" originally belong to black people?

Short answer: Nope

but... you know who... began referring to you know who... as you know what... and the rest is history.

What I'm trying to say is you have to thread lightly on this topic because IT IS NOT YOUR PLACE TO TELL SOMEONE WHAT THEY SHOULD OR SHOULDNT FIND OFFENSIVE.

Got help us had it been something about black people. Be considerate of others.

I hope you're embarrassed by this post you made.

Let them depict some black indigenous people in some logo and call the team some black tribe name and watch. Al Sharpton might burn down capitol hill.

All I am saying is as black people, as sensitive as we are about racial stuff we need to learn to be more aware of others feelings too on the matter.

We laugh when our comedians poke fun at other races but get our panties in a bunch if someone refers to some black girls as "nappy headed hoes".

Lets not dish it if we know we cant take it for a change.

Why would I be embarrassed?

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At the end of the day they aren't Indians. The only Indians are people with ties to India.

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It's funny I said something similar in higher learning and got called everything short of being a kewn. I'm glad someone else has some common sense.

Ok...Indians aside....are y'all cool with the 'Redskins' name?

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