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Being addressed means talking about it among themselves, the international community is only relevant if African nations don't address it themselves, I don't think africa has puppet regimes, I think africa has incompetent regimes
I'd even go as far as saying many of those regimes are acting in their own self interest. Mali for example, is being portrayed by some as being a puppet regime because they sought French help in dealing with their Islamist rebel crisis. I don't see it that way. The thing people like kingsmen and others need to understand is just because people make decisions that you disagree with does not make them puppets that are being deceived and manipulated. Mali sought help from a reliable ally (France) because it was the logical,rational thing to do.
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The Congo war is over

besides why are you pretending to give a fvck about the Congo?
Oh so the War is over with and U.S. influence of getting resources is over too?

Pretending? Sounds like you a few other posters pretend to care about Africa but only care about the Muslim controlled Nations in it.
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because ghadaffi was a dictator, and the less dictators the better
So if a dictator gives his people human rights( Housing, education and jobs, barely any bills to pay) he had to go?

You logic is flawed my friend....so is your view.
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most of those black libyans were pro-gaddaffi taureg fighters

Wrong again. Alot of the black Libyans had nothing to do with the military. Btw...all black Libyans were pro-Gaddafi.


People need to understand the tauregs are the biggest mercenaries in africa. They cause a lot of instability where they are at.
So Tauregs are mercenaries? Do you even know the definition of that? Seems like you don't.
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So if a dictator gives his people human rights( Housing, education and jobs, barely any bills to pay) he had to go?

You logic is flawed my friend....so is your view.
Yeah if a dictator gives you all that but doesn't give you individual rights then yeah he has to go, that is exactly what I am saying
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Yeah if a dictator gives you all that but doesn't give you individual rights then yeah he has to go, that is exactly what I am saying
Are you that stupid or you playing dumb on here. Individual Rights? So Human Rights such as Housing and education is not important but Individual Rights is....?

This is why we having millions of starving children here in the states. Millions homeless in the states, Millions with a 5th grade education. Millions who can't read because Human Rights isn't necessary.
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Are you that stupid or you playing dumb on here. Individual Rights? So Human Rights such as Housing and education is not important but Individual Rights is....?

This is why we having millions of starving children here in the states. Millions homeless in the states, Millions with a 5th grade education. Millions who can't read because Human Rights isn't necessary.
Don't try to tell me what's important, the most fundamental right is individual rights, everything else comes second
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Don't try to tell me what's important, the most fundamental right is individual rights, everything else comes second
That's your opinion. There are just as many founding liberals who thought rights were peripheral as there were those who found them necessary, and the same is true of political thinkers today.
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That's your opinion. There are just as many founding liberals who thought rights were peripheral as there were those who found them necessary, and the same is true of political thinkers today.
Yeah it's my opinion, I'm glad I can share it and now there is no confusion of where I'm coming from
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Malians celebrate, French-led forces clear Timbuktu

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Among the celebrating Gao crowds, many smoked cigarettes, women went unveiled and some men wore shorts to flout the severe sharia Islamic law the rebels had imposed for months. Youths on motorcycles flew the flags of Mali, France and Niger, whose troops also helped secure the ancient town on the Niger River.

“Now we can breathe freely,” said Hawa Toure, 25, wearing a colourful traditional African robe banned under sharia for being too revealing. “We are as free as the wind today. We thank all of our friends around the world who helped us,” she said.
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Being addressed means talking about it among themselves, the international community is only relevant if African nations don't address it themselves, I don't think africa has puppet regimes, I think africa has incompetent regimes



Most African governments are puppets of their colonial masters...So many Western army bases all over the contient to look after theirr interest with the blessing of these corrupt and incompetent African governments whom split the profits of the country's looted resources with their Western puppet masters...Fance in particular is one of the more actively blatantly aggressive Western in interferring it's colonies(including Mali)You got to be blind to not see this.
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French and Malian forces are preparing an offensive on the symbolic city of Timbuktu, captured by Islamist militants last year. FRANCE 24 special correspondent Matthieu Mabin reports from the outskirts of the ancient town.
By Matthieu Mabin , special correspondent in Mali (text)

After recapturing the city of Gao on Saturday, French and Malian forced have switched their focus to Timbuktu. Early on Sunday morning, masses of heavily-armored troops arrived at the outskirts of the city, stationing themselves some 100 kilometres away from the city centre.

The French air force has laid the groundwork for an all-out offensive, using Dassault Mirage 2000s and Rafle fighter jets to destroy rebel points in the vast desert around the city. So far, the troops have experienced no form of counter-attack on the ground.


Matthieu Mabin, FRANCE 24 special correspondent, is embedded with the French army in Mali.
Attacking Timbuktu is a symbolic operation for Mali – overrun by Ansar Dine jihadist militants almost a year ago, the ancient city has been ravaged by its captors: its mausoleums destroyed, its people forced to obey Sharia law. The rare accounts we’ve heard depict scenes of social desecration.

Liberated villagers ‘hysterical’

When we travel through liberated villages, the residents become almost hysterical at the sight of the French and Malian tanks. They rush out of their homes with the national flag shouting “Mali!” These people are literally being liberated after experiencing the terror of Sharia law. The accounts we’ve heard are terrible: suspected thieves having their hands cut off; women forced to wear the veil; men banned from wearing long trousers.

Residents tell us that the rebels flee very quickly [when the French and Malian forces arrive], leaving behind weapons and vehicles. They dress like civilians so as not to stand out and then try to head for the border with Mauritania.
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Most African governments are puppets of their colonial masters...So many Western army bases all over the contient to look after theirr interest with the blessing of these corrupt and incompetent African governments whom split the profits of the country's looted resources with their Western puppet masters...Fance in particular is one of the more actively blatantly aggressive Western in interferring it's colonies(including Mali)You got to be blind to not see this.
im not blind to it, but i think incompetence is the real problem, a competent leader would know how to balance the different geopolitical dynamics in his or her country
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Got to love the stuck in the box mindset of those who claim to be individuals. Shows how little they know about the rest of the world. Their view is as is...

Gaddafi had to go...
Why?
Cause he was a dictator?
Why?
Cause he didn't give them individual rights...
So Human Rights isn't important
Individual Rights is more important than anything
Why?
Cause it just is....


See the flawed logic here. theworldismine13 not have one clue about Libya or it's people but his thinking speaks volume of what the two party system has drilled into people's minds.

1. Libyans based their living population off tribes. What is best for the tribes is best for the nation. Gaddafi kept the Tribes from beefing and made truces. Gaddafi kept the people happy with free healthcare, free education, homes, jobs and farm land. When he made Libya the highest GDP per capita and life expectancy in Africa the west was praising him. Yet he was a dictator? Who claimed him that except for the Western Powers. So your logic fails in this country.

2. According to theworldismine13....Individual Rights are more important than anything....yet failed to describe what these I.R. are.

3. Human Rights....food, water, shelter, education is essential for the world so how do Individual Rights take the place of these?

4. Without food,water, clothes, shelter and education how is a person an individual? how does not being able to read help your individual rights? How does not having a place to stay help your individual rights? How does no access to food, water and clothers help your individual rights?

5. How did theworldismine13 become an Individual Rights activist without an education, food, clothes and shelter?
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fucking coward as rebels. why wont they stay and fight the infidels?
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