There is no consensus on what the "correct" definition of "Christian" is. There is only a near consensus within individual faith groups. Therefore questions like "Are you a Christian?" or "How many Christians are there in the U.S." are only meaningful:
-Within a single denomination, or among a group of similarly-minded denominations.
-In a public opinion poll where the definition of "Christian" is either clearly stated or left up to the subject to define.
In North America there are over a thousand faith groups.......
So, saying 'This is what a Christian is/does/believes' is a matter of opinion, not fact.
There is no consensus on what the "correct" definition of "Christian" is. There is only a near consensus within individual faith groups. Therefore questions like "Are you a Christian?" or "How many Christians are there in the U.S." are only meaningful:
-Within a single denomination, or among a group of similarly-minded denominations.
-In a public opinion poll where the definition of "Christian" is either clearly stated or left up to the subject to define.
In North America there are over a thousand faith groups.......
So, saying 'This is what a Christian is/does/believes' is a matter of opinion, not fact.
hopefully folks realized........
that was the point of this thread...........
oh and opinion should be changed for interpretation, cause well, you know
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oh and opinion should be changed for interpretation, cause well, you know
Nah, it's strictly an opinion. 'Interpretation' would entail actually thinking/research before they opened their mouths to question or answer a belief system.
Nah, it's strictly an opinion. 'Interpretation' would entail actually thinking/research before they opened their mouths to question or answer a belief system.
dude wtf....what are you talking about...everyone researches their belief system
and takes into account contradicting sources
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I must say though, being raised around catholics gave me reason to do my research
knowing that I had to go through the whole confirmation thing blah blah blah, gave me reason to question everything
I was just at a baptist church 2 months ago, and I was pretty turned off knowing that little kids were taking the body and blood of christ off GP. Growing up that was an honor. You had to do a whole bunch of **** to learn, understand and appreciate it (even if you were just doing it for the wine ).
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I can't believe you actually think these are good responses. This is sad and pathetic at best. Where's @Mr. Somebody you need backup, breh.
Im not Catholic. God is like incredible friend. God is like, everything. Haw man just thinkin about him makes me feel emotions like Mariah Carey. I feel that bond. I feel that connection. Its pretty difficult to talk about various faiths. Did Yeshua save us, he sure did. Is his plan of division down the line of good and evil coming true, it sure is. Did he die for our sins, obviously. A man of pure heart came to help friends and demonic individuals said, hey, string that boy up for talking that friendship nonsense. He was unwavering in his message and willing to die, for friendship. You guys should really take heed to the purity of the message of Yeshua and embrace it into your lives while also giving thanks to the Almighty for creating you and giving you an opportunity to live forever in the bliss of good. Lets not live like ratchet garbage but instead like vessels of good. Yea, lets do that ok.
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I know for 1 Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe Jesus is God, just the son. There are others who told me this too but I'm not that learned when it comes to Christianity so I can't tell you which denominations believe what.
You obviously don't know a lot about it either. Don't feel bad though, a lot of Christians don't know a lot about it either.
Yeah the principle tenant of Christianity is that you believe JC is God and that the only way to salvation is through him. ANything other than that and it's not christianity. For this reason Mormonism and JW's are not christians...that's to say that by the very definition they do not meet the criteria.
Christians do that. Funny thing is, he's suggesting that you have to follow what the bible says in order to be Christian, yet the bible says "Judge not lest ye be judged first" meaning since he judged, disobeying the bible, he is not a Christian. Truthfully not a soul on this planet actually listens or believes in the bible or Jesus and I can prove that shyt easy.
The bible does give recourse for correction, judging though is a no, no. I can correctly and justly tell someone they're wrong without "judging" them, that's to say without spiritually writing them off.
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2 Timothy 4:2
Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.
2 Thessalonians 3:15
Do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.
Romans 16:17
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them.
Specifically in regards to JW's....
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2 John 1:7-10
For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch yourselves, so that you may not lose what we have worked for, but may win a full reward. Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.
Again, given that the definition of Christianity is the belief in the divinity of JC (at a minimum) Here is really where we should be looking because it applies specifically to Catholicism in regards to their "Christianity" as well as to "which group got it right"
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Romans 14:1-23
As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.
As "brothers" in Christ the "details" or "opinions" on certain things should not hold you up, nor should they cause you "quarrel", the relationship you have with God is your own personal relationship, while you can teach and preach and rebuke and correct, ultimately everyone stands before the master alone and that personal relationship is judged.
For those who are staunch unbelievers and perpetual posters of things like this....
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Titus 3 10-11
As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.
Mathew 10: 14-15
If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet. Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.
The bible does give recourse for correction, judging though is a no, no. I can correctly and justly tell someone they're wrong without "judging" them, that's to say without spiritually writing them off.
Specifically in regards to JW's....
Again, given that the definition of Christianity is the belief in the divinity of JC (at a minimum) Here is really where we should be looking because it applies specifically to Catholicism in regards to their "Christianity" as well as to "which group got it right"
As "brothers" in Christ the "details" or "opinions" on certain things should not hold you up, nor should they cause you "quarrel", the relationship you have with God is your own personal relationship, while you can teach and preach and rebuke and correct, ultimately everyone stands before the master alone and that personal relationship is judged.
For those who are staunch unbelievers and perpetual posters of things like this....
what really more do we have to speak on?
excellent posting I wish I could have stated what I was saying as eloquently as you did
You're not understanding a very simple concept. There is no "praying to jesus" how you are trying to word it. You direct your prayers towards God. Some people pray "in Jesus's name" just how catholics pray in the name of the Virgin Mary or The Saints, but you have demonstrated your ability to probably not understand that either. So I'll end with this, for the 5th time, Jesus=God
Didn't this just answer the OPs question?
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no dumb *** if something is transparent it means it so small u see pass it.
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at this comeback. So Lazy. Sorry to put your uninformed arguments in check with basic facts
I feel that bond. I feel that connection. Its pretty difficult to talk about various faiths. Did Yeshua save us, he sure did. Is his plan of division down the line of good and evil coming true, it sure is. Did he die for our sins, obviously. A man of pure heart came to help friends and demonic individuals said, hey, string that boy up for talking that friendship nonsense. He was unwavering in his message and willing to die, for friendship. You guys should really take heed to the purity of the message of Yeshua and embrace it into your lives while also giving thanks to the Almighty for creating you and giving you an opportunity to live forever in the bliss of good. Lets not live like ratchet garbage but instead like vessels of good. Yea, lets do that ok. 
I wish I could have stated what I was saying as eloquently as you did
