if u know anything about game u'll know when in a public area, u are not to advance in situations that seem iffy. if u neglect the rules of the game, and u get shut down in front of a sea of other girls, can u guess what happens? your value goes down significantly. the only way u can redeem urself after such a disaster is to make sure ur seen in that same area by the same people with a hotter girl.
i never said i was "hoping" to see her again. but if i did, the way the game was played that night, given the circumstances, has laid a foundation that can end up gloriously. and if it doesn't, oh well.
no offense but you sound insecure, you seem too worried about what the people around you think when you should just focus on YOU and the GIRL you are talking to. there is no such thing as a perfect situation, a guy with game knows how to work with the cards he is dealt and makes the best of the situation he is in... the way you think about other girls watching you put in work i assume you dont get at the girl you like in a club/bar/lounge because too many other women are watching you huh? stop thinking so much
That's the understanding I try to convey to these women. A lot of them have been brainwashed by neo-feminist trash and constantly get into power struggles with their men... and unknowingly, their subconsciously learned behavior contributes towards driving away the real ones or creating the type of man they detest. It's not offensive to treat your friends well, but why do so many women look at it as detestable to accord their man the proper respect?
If a woman gets into a power struggle with a real man, he'll send her on her way because he doesn't play that and he refuses to give up his authority as a man. On the other hand, if she deals with a man that isn't real, her power struggle will ultimately result in her creating a weak man that is submissive to her and allows himself to be disrespected by her. The end result is that she will look at her own creation with utter disgust and peel off to another man. So many of these women continually go through this cycle over and over and over, creating men they detest or driving away men that would be suitable for them in the long-term... and then they wonder they they are 30 year old, fairly affluent, pretty women who end up as cat ladies that can't hold onto a man.
Women in this day and age have to learn to move out of the way and let a man be a man. The Bible says for a woman to submit to her man. A lot of women find that offensive, but there's nothing offensive about it. The key is finding a man worthy of submitting to. Unfortunately, women have a lot of negative connotations with that word. They seem to think of it as being a sort of slave to a man who is their dictator... What submission really means is humbling yourself and trusting in the guidance and authority of another. When we go to work, we 'submit' to our bosses because we trust they know more than us and have the requisite knowledge to produce wealth, which in turn results in us getting paid. People who utilize the services of a fitness trainer submits to the superior knowledge and instruction of that fitness trainer, which in turn produces superior results for that person's body. Submission isn't looked upon as offensive in these instances, but in the course of a relationship, so many women look at it as offensive to submit to their man. That's because they chose the wrong man in the first place. They were too worried about what he was swinging from his hips than the quality of what was coming out of his lips. A woman needs to be concerned with a man's spirit (morals) and mentality (quality of his thinking) MORE than his 'swag' or the size of his johnson. That's the only way for a woman to find a man that's worthy of submitting to, which will guarantee mutual satisfaction over the long term.
I'll have to delve into this topic of leadership and submission soon.
Very powerful and interesting stuff in this video below. Listen from 1:35:05 onwards because Phil Valentine elaborates on the exact same thing you're saying.....
no offense but you sound insecure, you seem too worried about what the people around you think when you should just focus on YOU and the GIRL you are talking to. there is no such thing as a perfect situation, a guy with game knows how to work with the cards he is dealt and makes the best of the situation he is in... the way you think about other girls watching you put in work i assume you dont get at the girl you like in a club/bar/lounge because too many other women are watching you huh? stop thinking so much
25. speaking on getting at a girl in front of other girls, dont you agree that if the girl you are talking to gives you play and the other girls around you see it wont that make your value higher in their eyes? the answer is yes. you were thinking about the negative instead of the positive outcome.
if u know anything about game u'll know when in a public area, u are not to advance in situations that seem iffy. if u neglect the rules of the game, and u get shut down in front of a sea of other girls, can u guess what happens? your value goes down significantly. the only way u can redeem urself after such a disaster is to make sure ur seen in that same area by the same people with a hotter girl.
i never said i was "hoping" to see her again. but if i did, the way the game was played that night, given the circumstances, has laid a foundation that can end up gloriously. and if it doesn't, oh well.
Think about it this way. What's better, to approach a female in a public place and take the risk 1) she turns you down 2) other females are watching what you're doing 3) they actually care enough to downgrade your value and 4) you were planning at hollering at the other females (all 4 of those factors have to be true for there to be any risk).
OR to approach no one and leave with no numbers and never having spit game at anyone.
First off, its kind of paranoid to assume other women are paying attention to you and her while you spit your game. Second, if she turns you down she probably won't make a big scene about it. She'll tell you she's not interested and kim. And even if you do get shut down in front of some other girls, the second option would still make more sense. You're probably not going to see any of these women again so what does it matter what they see you do?
Think about it this way. What's better, to approach a female in a public place and take the risk 1) she turns you down 2) other females are watching what you're doing 3) they actually care enough to downgrade your value and 4) you were planning at hollering at the other females (all 4 of those factors have to be true for there to be any risk).
OR to approach no one and leave with no numbers and never having spit game at anyone.
i disagree with that. if your game is tight you should be able to make her comfortable right then and there. Waiting until you see her next time is how you set yourself up for the L because from the time you left her there could have been a guy with tight game putting in that work, so next time she see you she def wont want you because someone already got her before you did
It's just different approaches to the situation and that's cool. To me, if a woman is hitting me with all those one word answers, I'm not going to really keep on sitting there trying to exp\tend the conversation for too much longer. One thing when dealing with women is that you always have to get their hints because they constantly do things in a round-about fashion.
If a woman is one-wording me, she might not be feeling me, she might not be trying to speak at that instant or she might be very nervous and shy. IN that instance, if you don't mash on her that first day and you know you'll see her again, it at least allows her to get comfortable with you when you see her next time again because she knows you aren't one those cats that be pressuring her. Plus, if she's fine, she also gets the notion that you aren't no extra thirsty dude who will be pasted on her because she's giving you some attention.
Next time she sees you and she's more comfortable with you and starts warming up, that's when I like to start mashing. Not all women will warm up to you the first day. Some need to see you around a bit and get familiar with you before they open up, especially shy women.
@kevm3 can yo define your version of the word THIRSTY? i feel some people version of being thirsty is actually some people version of just being Persistent in trying to get the girl since most girls will play hard to get and make you work for it instead of getting it easy. so being persistent actually pays off depending on how you go about it
@kevm3 can yo define your version of the word THIRSTY? i feel some people version of being thirsty is actually some people version of just being Persistent in trying to get the girl since most girls will play hard to get and make you work for it instead of getting it easy. so being persistent actually pays off depending on how you go about it
even though this is adressed at kev i'll give it a shot.
thirsty = needy.
persistent = you don't give up easily.
i think someone else in the thread said it but thirsty is like you desperately want to be accepted by the other person. so it's almost like you're implicitly begging them to like you. someone persistent will make a solid effort to command attention and respect but while respecting his boundaries and frame.
@kevm3 can yo define your version of the word THIRSTY? i feel some people version of being thirsty is actually some people version of just being Persistent in trying to get the girl since most girls will play hard to get and make you work for it instead of getting it easy. so being persistent actually pays off depending on how you go about it
Let me break it down to you from my perspective, even though Turbulent gave a great answer.
When you come up on a female, you can deal with her from a standpoint of you having the greater value and being the prize or you can look at her as having the greater value and being the prize. The mentality YOU choose will ultimately affect how you deal with her.
The difference between thirst and persistence is the difference between the words want and need.
Thirsty negroes act like they NEED a woman. Real men WANT a woman. The distinction between the two is that a man that needs a woman behaves in a fashion that he will pursue her and attempt to have her by any means necessary, even if it means a degradation of his dignity as a man. A man that wants a woman will pursue a woman, but he will never sacrifice his own principles, dignity and manhood in order to chase her.
If you feel YOU'RE the prize, you only want to deal with a woman in a certain way. If you feel SHE is the prize, you will deal with her and do anything to get her. Let me break this down further. How you step through the door with a woman is often how the relationship will be. If you come through the door with a woman attempting to impress her and being OVERLY persistent, then she will see you as a man that is really trying hard to win her affection. She will start getting the notion that SHE is in control because she sees that you are exerting an abnormal amount of effort to catch her. Once she gets this notion in her mind, sure, you might be able to deal with her on a short-term basis, but over the long-term, it's going to be nothing but problems because you've set a bad precedent. When you dealt with her early on through exerting that extra effort you essentially told her that you will go that extra mile to be with her. She can get you to do the out of the ordinary for her attention.
That's why a lot of cats, when they deal with a woman and 'catch her' by exerting all of this extra effort... doing little things to impress her, staying around and dealing with her when she's in this sour nasty mood, letting her call the shots, etc... they may HAVE her, but the way they have her is going to be unacceptable. When they end up dealing with her, she's going to be real disrespectful because she got the notion in her mind that SHE'S running things. She's going to start CHARGING you for her attention.
Now, when dealing with a woman, it all starts from your mentality and from your initial reactions with her. If I'm chopping it with a woman and she's icy with it, I'm not going to keep on going on and on with it. Me, I believe a woman finds a way to get to where she wants to be and finds a way to get to who she wants to get to. So I don't believe in trying to impress a woman who isn't feeling me, aka trying to WIN her attention and affection. You know what, prizes are WON, so if you're trying to win her attention and affection, you are telling her SHE is the prize. You might end up 'winning' her, but you will have paid a high cost and will continue paying during your interactions with her. She will always be CHARGING you, or in other words, creating stipulations that you have to adhere to and requiring compensation in order for you to get her time.
As I said before, when a woman really digs a man, I FIRMLY believe she acts in a way that is conducive towards him catching her. Her conversation is more open and friendlier than average. She makes herself available to him. Now you do have women that play hard-to-get, but my mentality is screw that, THEY are the ones that are going to miss out. I'm not going out of my way to play some little games with a woman in order to get her attention. She better cut them games out and act right to get my attention, because I'm the prize. You might miss out on some QUANTITY with my approach, but the QUALITY of the women you deal with will be much better.
Now how all of this deals with talking to a woman you just met? If the conversation is icy and one worded, I'm not going to necessarily assume that she's not feeling me, but then again, what I WON'T do is be hanging around all day trying to drag all of this conversation out. If it starts getting icy, I'm gone and when I come around the next time, I'm going to see if it had warmed up. Some women are shy and take time to get comfortable around you. The more these women see you, are able to observe you and become familiar with you, the more comfortable they become. So THOSE women take time to really crack, so leaving and having her see you again, if she is shy and likes you, you will notice her opening up slowly and heating up. Now if you see a woman and she was icy to you and you left and you see her again and she's icy again, and you start noticing a pattern of iciness, that's one broad that might very well not be feeling you. There's no need to pursue her any further, because as I said before, I'm not going to WIN a woman's attention and affection, or in other words, make HER the prize in order to deal with her.
it never ceases to amaze me how these hoes really have no love for their kids.
For a chick that do that and her kids are starving, she gotta be evil. No ands, ifs, or buts. Her kids gonna think that mommy is a worthless hoe. That is why I hate child support so much cause it puts money in a trifiling woman's pocket and never to help the kids. **** like that, I wonder how the kids gonna think of mommy when they get older.
Some women are shy and take time to get comfortable around you. The more these women see you, are able to observe you and become familiar with you, the more comfortable they become. So THOSE women take time to really crack, so leaving and having her see you again, if she is shy and likes you, you will notice her opening up slowly and heating up.
These type of women are the best to be with. They are the opposite of attention whores and not many guys have the persistence to truly get to know them. And also they tend to be more loyal to the guy who invests time getting them to open up. I had this coworker who took months before she would start sharing personal information with me. Never smashed because I had a girlfriend at the time, but I'm always on the lookout for someone like that.
And on the flip side there's the female who will start sharing her life story the first time you meet her. From my experience its best not to pursue this type because she probably has 10 other guys trying to get with her thinking they "know" her.